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Exporting as searchable PDF

Felix Sonntag
posted this on January 25, 2012 23:54

Is there any possibility to export your notes as a searchable pdf. The Livescribe Desktop software has a great text recognition, why don't use it  usefull.

 

PS: I am not sure, if I am in the right forum, sorry.

 

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Jeff
Livescribe

Hi,

Adobe would have to integrate that into their program.  Once the export is done it is up to the program being used to provide that feature.

Thank you,

Jeff

January 26, 2012 10:41
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Felix Sonntag

Thanks for the answer. Although it isn't the kind of answer I wanted to hear. So let's hope Adobe will bring us this feature.

January 29, 2012 16:58
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Happy Camper

The answer is wrong though. The mapping between hand written text and OCR needs to be done during the OCR process - otherwise the mapping will be lost. In this case, the mapping would need to be done in the MyScript application - and from there it would need to be sent back to Livescribe Desktop before it could be exported into a searchable pencast PDF. A dedicated programmer could do it, no doubt. But I do not know at what cost, in hours.

January 30, 2012 12:52
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Simon Hards

The Fujitsu Scansnap scanners perform OCR and output searchable PDFs. On the mac these are easily indexed by spot light. I think it uses ABBYY software to create the searchable PDF. Would be good if this did similar.

February 02, 2012 13:56
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Rav Chunilal

I have asked this question on a couple of occassions directly to Livescribe support. 

It seems Livescribe do not have the capability to integrate this functionality into Adobe, hence putting the monkey onto Adobe's back.

If Adobe have not yet integrated it within their products, surely Livescribe should see this as a gap, and develop an equivalent searchable tool that works via the web and on mobile device?

If Livescribe dont have the resources to do this, why not open it up to allow the opensource community to develop something?

August 10, 2012 05:09
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Wee-Kiat Kong

This is a feature that Livescribe would need to implement, not Adobe.

Livescribe Desktop performs an OCR on each page, presumably during the import process. This is done so we can search the document in Livescribe Desktop. For some reason, they have decided not to export the OCR data as a text layer in the PDF.

For me, this is a deal breaker. I cannot install the Livescribe Desktop software on my work PC and a collection of non-searchable PDFs exported from Livescribe Desktop is next to useless.

August 21, 2012 08:47
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Happy Camper

I made a mistake above, apparently.... 

The OCR in Livescribe desktop really is excellent. It would probably be trivial to implement this, since the OCR has already been done, and the text layer is already there.

Jeff: Adobe already supports searchable text layers. It has done this for ages. Just export the text layer and it will work.

It is a mystery to me why Livescribe ignores suggestions like this that are easy to do and increases the value of their product.

August 21, 2012 11:30
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Jean-Philippe Martin

I would love to see this feature too. It is true that Adobe could do it, but it's also true that Livescribe could do it.

 

August 21, 2012 13:33
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Wee-Kiat Kong

I'm not sure Adobe could do this because handwriting recognition requires highly specialised knowledge and AFAIK Adobe does not have that capability.

In fact most OCR programs cannot convert handwriting to text as I've tried making the PDFs exported by LiveScribe Desktop searchable but the results so far have been abysmal. Using MyScript to convert my notes to a poorly formatted RTF file (my current workaround for not having searchable PDFs) I find the conversion results reasonably accurate. However using PDF Xchange Viewer's OCR (which is able to add a text layer to the PDF), produces complete gibberish.

August 21, 2012 17:49
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Rav Chunilal

I would expect at the very least, an Android and iphone app which would do exactly what the Desktop application does.  If you can sync the mobile app with the PC, and with Livescribe online, then surely the mobile application should be able to pull this information down.  

This sort of stuff is simple to do these now, and doesn't really take long, it's all about what sort of recognition Livescribe want, and whether their competitors will end up having the edge over them. I've not really seen any big complementary changes from Livescribe updates recently.   I really look forward to see what the next update has in store for the users! 

August 22, 2012 01:16